Quixtar Criminals

2005-07-12T18:55:00.000-07:00

The Divorce Decree

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The Divorce Decree

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The Divorce Decree

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The Divorce Decree

2005-07-12T18:45:00.000-07:00

The Divorce Decree

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The Divorce Decree

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The Divorce Decree

Update.

2005-07-09T16:20:00.000-07:00

I'm still here. I haven't had much to blog about. Plus, I'm a little distracted raising a seven month old baby boy. Those of you who have kids know what that's like.

My divorce is final.

My ex-wife had testified that she broke up with her Quixtar IBO boyfriend to do what was in the best interest of our son. The day after the ruling she was back with him. Gratefully her tricks and lies didn't work with the judge. I think she already has plans to marry this guy, who just finalized a divorce himself. Wonder why his wife divorced him? Quixtar maybe?

The bad thing is they are living together, contrary to the court order that she not cohabitate with men around my son. She is also taking advantage of me. She has him for five weeks in the summer. When she has visitation she is giving my son to my daycare and not paying them, so I had to take him out. She also would not pay for his food and diapers when he was in daycare. Once again her financial irresponsbility is affecting me. So, it looks like I'm going back to court. I'm meeting with my attorney Monday, we will ask for the judge to clarify some of her financial responsibilities and we will charge her with purgery, all in an attempt to stop her antics.

I tried to call the boyfriend to tell him the seriousness of them cohabiting. He started yelling at me and wanted me to fight him. I said I would love to, but I'm not stupid enough to get thrown in jail and lose custody. After the phone call, he called the police anyway and said I threatened him. Then my ex-wife jumped on that bandwagon and filed a false police report for whatever reason, I don't know. I didn't do anything to her.

It was a game. She was trying to get control again. For example, she is responsible for all transportation. She asked the police to ask me to come to where she lives to exchange our son. I told the police, no. The police don't make laws, they enforce them. The judge had made the law and I was following it. The police could do nothing. So, her game didn't fly. The police asked us all not to communicate by phone anymore. That was really stupid on her part. I was giving her all kinds of privileges to visit and see him beyond what the judge allowed. After her antics all the priviledges have stopped. She can't even call me to say she misses him and wants to visit.

Anyway, that's the kind of crap I'm going to have to deal with for the rest of my life. Joy.

As far as posting stuff...I found out it costs me $3.10 a page for the transcript, which I'm sure is hundreds of pages, as we were in court for four days. I'm still trying to pay off my attorney and court costs, which are over $20,000. So, it may be a while. I'll try to post the final divorce papers, some depositions, and recorded phone calls I have, when I can get around to it.

Thanks for all the support!

The Juicy Detail, Previously Mentioned

2005-06-07T18:39:00.000-07:00

I had an excellent day in court back on April 19 and we were feeling pretty confident. I was upset that the judge delayed her defense to June 2. She had shown up with her boss from her real J-O-B, as her only witness. When they arrived to court and realized that I was launching a massive attack on Quixtar with Cathleen Mann and Eric Scheibeler, she was able to get one of her upline, Adam, to come to court. He was the jerk who had moved in next door to her and had once kicked me out of her house. That was the extent of her defense, and now she would have a month and a half to mount a defense. So I was a little worried.

The next morning a got a secret phone call from her boss. She said her conscience had gotten to her and that there were things going on that I was not aware of, that was not in the best interest of Jonas. We met for lunch that day. She handed me my ex's employee file and three pages of questions she had taken the time to write out, to ask her in cross examination and that she would tell the truth. We went ahead and deposed her boss and the files. In court she told the truth and it was extremely damaging.

After the ruling that I would have full custody, my ex was devastated. Where did she go? To family? Nope. She went to her Quixtar "adopted mother", Evelyn. This lady called my ex's boss and chewed her out, blaming her for the loss. Well, my ex quit her J-O-B, even though she has to pay me $70 a week in child support. And, of course, she went to her Quixtar meeting this week.

She has standard visitation, despite the recommendation by my son's Ad Litem attorney to have more. Basically, that is every other weekend, four and half hours one night a week, five weeks in the summer, and shared holidays. If we can not agree on the night each week for visitation, the court forces it to be Tuesday night, which is Quixtar night. I can't decide if I should force her to have him that night to make a choice between him and Quixtar or let her continue in Quixtar and suffer until she figures it out for herself.

She still is blaming everyone, especially me, for the loss. She claims I paid the judge off, that he is an idiot. She said that any man who takes a child from its mother, will burn in hell. That includes me. She asked if I had paid off my "attorney whore". Despite the explicit ruling of why she lost and the powerful testimony against Quixtar, she can't accept the truth and take responsibility for her actions.

As my father says, "one must want the consequences of what one wants".

Cleaning Up My Blog

2005-06-07T18:18:00.000-07:00

I decided to remove some of my posts that offended people. There are plenty of blogs out there that criticize Quixtar and the full spectrum of feelings, including my own, are expressed. The intent of my blog is to tell my story, more than posting my personal views and thereby insulting anyone. I think I've been obviously frustrated. But, now I have a huge wait lifted from my shoulders. Relief, is what I would describe my feelings as, now that the case is over.

I just wanted to prepare my blog for some possibly heavy traffic, once I begin to post the details. I'm thinking of removing any content that has nothing to do with Quixtar, scanning the documents, and sending them to Scott Larsen, Eric Scheibeler, and Eric the Quixtar Blog guy. If they want them? Anyone else? Any suggestions? Their websites could handle the massive amount of content and people could more easily view them. I will comment and discuss with folks here on the blog. To be honest, I'm not a computer tech guy and I'm overwhelmed with improving my blog to handle all the info I have. Unless a fellow blogger wants to help me, I would give them access to my site.

Remember folks, I have a very demanding full-time job. That is why I don't post daily and keep this thing up the way I want. But, I'll do my best.

I WON !!!!!!

2005-06-03T13:01:00.000-07:00

I won custody of my son today! Take that, you Quixtar criminals! Judge Scott ruled today that the lifestyle of my Quixtar IBO, now ex-wife, was unstable and not responsible. He slammed Quixtar in his ruling. He had nothing but praise for my normal lifestyle.

I want to float on cloud nine for now, but I will post more details.

Thank you to all, for your support and prayers.

Beware Quixtar, a precedence has been set!

My Case is Getting Interesting

2005-05-31T20:10:00.000-07:00

Two days from now, my case should be over, hopefully. When my wife showed up a month in a half ago, she had just her boss to testify. Unfortunately my case went all say and her defense was postponed. So, now she has about ten witnesses. Mostly people to testify defending Quixtar. She found some people from another state who are friends of the Quixtar IBO who moved in next door to her, the same guy who kicked me out of her house, and is just an all around royal jerk. He has that look of pure evil. Anyway, he has some friends who are former Quixtar IBOs still sympathetic to Quixtar. They'll testify there's nothing wrong with Quixtar.

She has a huge defense planned. So, the odds for me aren't as good as they were before. We'll just have to see who the judge believes.

One thing is for sure, there is a definite bias for the mother in the legal system. Even though the state law clearly states there is to be no prejudice based on sex of the parent. I have to overcome a lot. I think my judge is better than most. But, I know for a fact that if you reversed the circumstances with the parents in my case, it would be a "slam dunk", against me as the father, no question about it. So, hopefully it will go good for me. I'll keep everyone posted one way or the other.

Props to QBlog

2005-05-06T21:04:00.000-07:00

I was reading over at QuixtarBlog. I really love that site. I was confused for a while thinking he (Eric) was the same Eric Scheibeler. I figured out later that was not so. Eric S. has a couple of his own sites, which I hope to get more involved in, once my legal case is over. We've talked about putting my story on his site and maybe doing some other things.
Back to QuixtarBlog. That site always gets my thoughts going. Unfortunately, I have a lot on my mind these days. I'm constantly thinking deeply about Jonas' and my situation. I hope I don't just "snap" someday, and they have to put me in a nut house.
I started this blog, in part thanks to QBlog. I've since gone back and have read from day one of his blog, and it was scary how similar some of my own posts are to his. I could tell that he once was mulling things over in his head with all this Quixtar crap and his wife's involvement, much like I am now. It's neat to see the evolution of his site to what he represents for the Quixtar forum today. Without a doubt he has mad writing and computer skills. I'm very jealous. I'm afraid it's painfully obvious I'm lacking in those departments. In college I got out of the required computer class, by asking my department head to accept a business leadership class I wanted to take instead. And, English, grammar, spelling, etc. was always my worse courses, even though there are successful authors and poets in my family.
Tonight I was reading a QuixtarBlog post and some comments from Michael a pro-Quixtar blogger and Rocket an anti-Quixtar frequent visitor. There are some QuixtarBlog posts that seem to really get the two sides going. I love them! I really have to hold back on some of the things I want to say. These Quixtar IBOs really get my blood boiling sometimes. It makes you want to rip your hair out, they are so freakin' brainwashed. As soon as I feel I get it out of my system by posting comments, some new guy from Quixtar gets on there thinking he is going to post some revolutionary comment and it's just another "tape speak" very basic thought, we've all heard a million times. It makes me want to give up!
But, then I think of what happened to me and my family, and I want to come on here and try and help someone avoid the nightmare I have experienced. I haven't posted frequently, like I know many wish I would. I due have a very successful professional career and the cutest kid in the world to take care of outside of this blogging forum. But, I appreciate the support from all. It's incredible to think people outside my family and friends, that are complete strangers would say and due the kind things that have transpired since my ordeal started.
I have been holding back a lot of information on purpose. Once the case is over, I'll have a treasure chest of information that can be used to help people get out and avoid Quixtar all together.
Finally, back to that post I was reading tonight. I want to really dig into the psychological reasons why people even listen day one to the IBO who prospects them, why they slide deep into the fog of mis-information, lies, and deception. Why they allow themselves to become brainwashed? Why they think and say the things they do? Why they'll defend this crap until they can't remember anymore "tape speak" and don't have any original thoughts on the subject and quickly disappear from the internet; or as my wife and her IBO associates do, they hang up on me or tell me to leave or they'll just leave and call me childish names as they go?
I think about this stuff all the time. I never thought in a million years, this crap would affect me the way it has. It didn't take more than ten minutes of my brain before last year. Now it consumes me!

Happy Anniversary!

2005-05-05T20:09:00.000-07:00

It's been one year since I married my beautiful wife. It blows my mind to think that one year ago I was in Maroma, Mexico (paradise) and the happiest I had been up to that point in my life.

Ironically, my attorney asked me to come by today and sign an amended complaint from legal separation to divorce (I'm divorcing her for sleeping with a fellow Quixtar IBO). Happy anniversary, honey!

On another note, I heard something new, I thought everyone might find interesting. She testified in court and she mentioned again this week that she had to do "interviews" for Quixtar. Yes, she said she didn't want just anybody working under her. She said in her deposition these "interviews" last 30-40 minutes and in court she testified they took 15-20 minutes.

I'm wondering if this is what you Quixtar IBOs call recruiting these days. It's obviously just more deceptive recruiting tactics. Throw in some charismatic leaders that they idealize and some insider lingo and information, and you have the three key and required ingredients for a cult.

Let me get this straight, you interview people to start their OWN, INDEPENDENT business. Right. Funny, real funny, I actually laughed, when she said it. She responded by saying my "puny" mind couldn't comprehend this (more childishness). I tried to ask her some more questions about this, but she just hung up on me.

I think Qblog had a link to a guy's online journal post, saying he had an "interview" with Quixtar. "Dave On The Road" (the only IBO I respect) had defended him from comments warning him about Quixtar, saying that the interview was more likely at the corporate offices. Well Dave, I think this is just the next tactic BWW is using to scam people into Quixtar. BEWARE!

Pure Quixtar Vile!

2005-04-24T21:41:00.000-07:00

Here's another Quixtar IBO comment, I received when I first started my blog. Though he seems to have put more thought into his post, it angers me that without knowing me or our family's situation, he makes major assumption and accusations, which are absolutely false. More than anything, his comment scares me. These people are really demented and evil.

I am really not trying to slam you, although it will feel like it. I am speaking directly from the truth in my heart, with love intended in my words. I feel very very sad for you. You are coming from a complete lack of information & understanding. Your opinion is not based on sound principles, but based on NOT supporting your wife or even knowing what she is a part of. This is the best opportunity for ANYONE to make their lives count, It is expected that you don't "get it" right now. IF you would have supported her & been by her side as a MAN is supposed to be, if she didn't have to take the reins & try to make a lasting legacy for her family because her husband wouldn't do it, then she made the right decision for your son. What she is pursuing IS FOR not only your son but generations of your family to come. It took a LOT more guts do do the right thing than to hang around & wait for you. She is to be applauded for having the vision to do that. I am divorced, divorce is not good for anyone, I have kids, they are not with me, so yes I am in a similar situation (for different reasons) & I know what seperation from your kids is like. If you would REALLY take the time to get to know the leaders in the business & get inside their heads as to what their vision is for family, America & the world your eyes would either be opened or of course you could dismiss it as "crazy dreams" kinda like the world being flat, or humans will never run a four minute mile, or "motorcars" will never catch on...I know you are seriously in pain right now & that is to be expected. If you want her back, go to her, apologize forget your pride, ask her if you can learn what she has seen & know what she now knows. Whether you are a Christian or not, pray, ask God to show you what is going on & what you should do.I am not a blogger, I don't know your wife or you, I am a part of this business waaaaay downline from Bill Brit, I am not very sucessful with my business due to my own laziness, I will never stop supporting it because of what I have seen & what I know about the leaders involved. I just happened to find your blog while cruising the internet. I felt compelled to speak to you. I can only pray that you will reconcile with her, save your marriage, be the man she needs you to be & become the flag bearer for her vision. It is not too late. Please re read this later with a completely open mind after your furious wrath has subsided.I have personally seen the leaders I am associated with LEAD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO CHRIST. Literally THOUSANDS, even with the usual "seed on rocky soil" etc, that is pretty darn impressive & I doubt one of you that have a negative opinion of what you "refuse" to understand have a record anywhere near that level of fulfilling the great comission. Go ahead, cast the first stone...I for one & all of my kids & my wife (who will all be in MY will) are saved because of THIS business, indirectly Bill Brit. I was lost, now I am not, neither is my family because of THIS business. You can not measure or will you know (until it is too late of course) the good that this completely legitimate (but imperfect) business has done not only in this country but MANY others as well.I want to leave with a few thoughts, Poor people can not help poor people,God wants you to prosper as your soul prospers,The great comission does not say or even imply - When YOU are safe & secure, go hide at home & make no more difference in the world, be a closet Christian & wait till I (Jesus) come to get you.YES! The top percentage of IBO's make the top money! DUH! so does the top guy where YOU WORK! (Are you surprised?)YES! This business is radical (so was Jesus, remember, he was crucified for being "different") That doesn't make it wrong or evil.YES! I am passionate about it & believe it was a devinely inspired vehicle, intended to change the world from the inside, one family at a time.YES! Not all who enter will stay (narrow is the way...) & some families have been negatively effected, hmm, I think Mary had a son who was taken away from her... I should really stop now... I understand the fear, confusion & even hatred around this wonderful business, I applaud it, it means that it IS right, just as Jesus was in his day. When you pray about all this, ask for clarity in your vision regarding where the "negative" is coming from, could it be that scales are over your eyelids?

Quixtar Idiot Strikes Again!

2005-04-22T16:54:00.000-07:00

I love it when Quixtar IBOs come to my site and comment to my posts. Without fail, they always say something extremely stupid and prove what IDIOTS they are! Here is what some guy has to say to my post, "Dangerous" Cults and a Thank you....

Dear Sir, It seems apparent that your son has made a decision to be sucessful in owning his own business, not joining the membership requirements of a cult. You know its funny that no on has a problem with anyone having a career, but when you tell someone that youre gonna own a business and your gonna be sucessful and buy youre life back that when opposition starts. Why is it so unbelievable that someone would parttime put 5 nights a week into THEIR OWN BUsiness vs 5 days a week working for another man. You are obvioulsy clingy, stupid and unsupportive and should be proud that your son has a dream, because obvioulsy you don't!!!

WHAT?

Did you read the post, before you commented? Did you read anything on my blog?

Let's see if I get this straight. My five month old son has made a decision to be successful at his own business, Quixtar? He is going to "buy his life back"? It really IS unbelievable that "someone would have their own business"....when he's FIVE MONTHS OLD! You IDIOT!

Now this is classic... (spelling was corrected)

I'm "obviously clingy (that's why I'm divorcing my WIFE, she's the one in Quixtar), stupid (graduated top of my class from top private university, have owned my own company for over four years, work a great job making more than an "Emerald"), and unsupportive"(I finance all my sons expenses and most of my wife's, even though she works two jobs and gives all her free time and money to Quixtar and I owe her nothing since we've separated).

Finally, I AM proud of my son for having a dream...he dreams about daddy, mommy, his bottle, his pacifier, and his toys. I'm sure someday he'll share my dream, I dream of a day when his mom will get out of this cult, Quixtar, and get her life in order for his sake.

So, I await the time when one, just one brainwashed Quixtar zombie can come on here and say something halfway intelligent! I'm not sure it's possible. At least we have an explanation as to why they persist in this cult. They're just not that smart. Plain and simple, IDIOTS!

Case Pending.

2005-04-20T07:40:00.000-07:00

Our side went into the evening hours. The judge set the defense for her side for another month in a half. Again, I'm going to keep things vague, but my witnesses were excellent. It couldn't have gone too much better. I'll keep everyone updated.

The BIG DAY for Quixtar Criminals!

2005-04-18T10:36:00.000-07:00

Tomorrow is the big day in court!

I have some great stuff to post from her deposition and our recorded phone conversations.

I think tomorrow is going to be a real shock for those Quixtar IBOs, I'll post the transcripts.

Thanks again to Eric Scheibeler and Cathleen Mann (an expert on cults).

Everyone pray for me, Jonas, and my wife. I have nothing to lose. Even if I don't get custody, my son will know that his dad everything in his power to do what was in his best interest.

Down with the Quixtar criminals!

IBO Comments

2005-04-11T12:57:00.000-07:00

I just got a post from a girl, who is naive at best. It was scary how similar she sounded to my wife, soon to be ex-wife. I'm not trying to deter her comment or any other comment from an IBO. But, it's just so scary how they don't realize what they are saying is absurd. She posted this on my "Religion 101 and Quixtar" post....

"i don't think you can start saying stuff about this company just because of stuff you've heard. Have you gone to a seminar? By the way it sounds probably not. I just got back from a spring leadership function and i had the time of my life. There were no cult activity going on. Maybe the thing you saw was the church service when people were crying and then the concert when people were holding candles and lights. I don't believe we are coveting. The speakers that were there say that their relationships with their spouse was much like yours, but then this company brought them together.I don't believe this is some sort of cult because of my experience. My boyfriend came home and told me he is going into debt fast and this was not usual of him. He was so stressed out about it and i told him that God will take care of him and i told him to talk to God about it. He prayed to God and I prayed to God that night. The next day Jacob was speaking with our neighbor (something he did just about every day)and this business opportunity came up. I think it was an answer to our prayers. So i do believe God brought us to this. And the church service they have is a non-denominational service. I was there this past weekend and i saw roughly 1,000 people walk to the front and ask for forgivness and ask the Lord to save them. So i don't really understand how you can say this is some sort of a cult, when things like this have happened to me this weekend. Maybe you should give it a chance and see what it is about before you start badmouthing this company"

She proved my point brilliantly.

And, she made this comment on Economics 101.

"most of these people are also highly educated with degrees of business and they also had real jobs at top-notch businesses before they quick to become IBOs. I guess the only reason your professors were calling them losers was because they envy the IBOs because they make in a month more than what your professors make in a whole year and two years and three years. "

I said the IBOs call professors losers, not the other way around. Trust me, when I say NO professor has ever talked about Quixtar in any lecture....THEY DON"T CARE. Professors are intelligent men who don't have time for un-intelligent people. The rest of her comment speaks volumes.

This is exactly how my wife talks and behaves, of course most IBOs do. I bet they're in the same group and she went to the same meeting this weekend.

Religion 101 and Quixtar

2005-04-10T08:17:00.000-07:00

It's a beautiful spring Sunday. Jonas is getting over being sick and back to his normal happy self. I was thinking about his future and his mom's future. She is somewhere in South Carolina or somewhere on one of her Quixtar "revivals", as I call them.

Her Quixtar group meets at least four times a year for a couple of days of no sleep and some quality brainwashing and cult activity, which was featured on that MSNBC expose last year. That was some freaky footage of people crying and candles being lit throughout the crowd...Weird stuff! Anyway, I got to thinking about the hypocrisy of Quixtar and its strong ties to religion.

I am very religious. My wife used to belong to the same faith as mine, not anymore, Quixtar is her religion now. If she attends church, it's with her fellow IBOs; there's her adopted mother-"Mamma Brown", her ex-boyfriend and Mamma Brown's son, her upline-"Jon the hottie", the IBO couple who moved in next door to her and she double dates with, and of course her latest boyfriend-I'll call him..."I want to beat your face in, Jones."

Back to religion...I have a serious question for those IBOs out there. Now, please represent and offer me some answers on this one. How do you defend yourselves against one of the ten commandments, Thou shalt not COVET?

I won't ask you to defend my wife's adultery, stealing, lying, not honoring her parents, etc...

But, please defend that question of COVETING; which defined is- to wish, long, crave after something that is of another's or to wish for longingly or to feel blameworthy and immoderate desire for something that another has.

It may be a stretch, but I would say you are also worshiping engraved images, by posting pictures all over your houses of riches and wealth, as motivation. And, possibly worshipping the Diamonds more than God, based on the amount of time you spend idolizing the Diamonds and spending more time trying to become a Diamond then becoming more like Christ. I would say, Christ is the absolute exact opposite of a Diamond in Quixtar, in every way!

Which brings me to my next question. What is the purpose of life for the Quixtar folks? You can't take those riches with you when you die. You say your motivation is so you can stay home with your other spouse and live the perfect life with your kids, even though we know the higher up you go the work is the same or more. Even if it did happen, is that really what you want your kids to grow up thinking, that life is about sacrificing five years of your prime years, only to sit back and watch the money roll-in, with no principles of work. That whole argument is absolutely ridiculous, because you KNOW that has NEVER happened in reality!

As my wife was leaving Thursday (she will return Monday), she was lamenting having to leave Jonas with me for so long. I said, "well just quit Quixtar." She said, "No, this is the way I will be able to stay home with him all the time." I laughed, she can't see the absurdity of what she just said. She's working two part-time jobs to finance her life and her Quixtar upline, missing quality time with her baby, and ruining everything of true value in the mean time, when I make plenty to support her, and she could have been at home with him. It's really, really sad. Pathetic, really pathetic.

Thanks Quixtar, keep the dream alive!

E-commerce?

2005-04-06T19:08:00.000-07:00

I'll admit my wife's Quixtar group is extreme! Extremely off, that is. I honestly hope it doesn't get any worse for the Quixtar "family".

They now call themselves, "E-Commerce". They only "buy" from Quixtar. It seems they are trying to distance themselves from Quixtar. Not that Quixtar is bad, compared to them. I think they want to say, "they are different" than anything negative anyone my hear or read about Quixtar.

Yeah right! In reality, they are the reason Quixtar gets a bad reputation.

But, they are a Bill Britt, Larry Winters, Danny Snipes, lineage or family...or, whatever you want to call them. And, it doesn't get any more cult-like than this "E-commerce" group.

Update and Paranoia

2005-04-01T17:06:00.000-08:00

I haven't had a chance to talk to my attorney, since the deposition, she's very busy. But, I did talk to my wife...And, she was ticked off, to say the least. I asked, if she was surprised at how much I knew, her response..."You don't know crap!" Then she said to me, "I have one thing to say to you...I really hope you have a good life!"

Strange thing to say. Immature, really. But, there's more to it...I know what she meant, she's said similar things in the past. She honestly believes that, someday things will turn around for her, and she will be rich and happy. She has said, "I will have the last laugh." All thanks to Quixtar, because Quixtar is the "ONLY way to freedom and happiness."

Yeah, right. She really thinks that my life is pathetic, just like everyone else who has a J-O-B and reads the news and is part of "society". That's how twisted her thinking is. The irony is, that everything she seeks...I have! She had it, when she was with me! She threw it away, because Quixtar is the "ONLY way to achieve happiness", and she didn't recognize it when she had it in any other way.

My response to her was, "I do have a good life, and it will be even better if I get custody of my son."

I wanted to add, I'm really paranoid that somebody at Quixtar is actually paying attention to this blog. So, I'm keeping a lot of the day to day details vague, until the case is over. I will post more later, of things that have taken place. I don't want to give my plans away, too much. I plan on posting all the court transcripts, newspaper articles, etc. Maybe it will help someone else?

Big Day!

2005-03-31T05:04:00.000-08:00

Today is a big day for my wife. Early this morning she will be in criminal court facing the judge on her felony charges for fraud. The prosecuting attorney and she will just inform the judge that they are ready for trial and a date will be set. She's scrambling to try and lighten her sentence by paying off the three credit cards she opened in my name. I just feel sorry for the sucker she "borrowed" the money from. Actually, it's probably the boyfriend or the boyfriend's parents. You see, he is a Quixtar IBO too, but he still lives with his mommy. If it was him, then I don't care, he's probably used to getting screwed over anyway.

After that, my wife has to go to the deposition for our child custody and divorce case. She's going to be shocked, what I know. I've had a private investigator following her since Valentines Day, when I caught her sleeping around and leaving my son with a strange man, while she screwed around.

Check this out, she had a free attorney, he stinks, but free nonetheless. And, she left him a phone message that he was fired, she blames him and everyone else for her problems. Well, he was happy, because he had been openly saying he didn't want to represent her, the judge had kind of forced him into it. Later, she probably realized how expensive attorneys are or for whatever reason, she still has this guy. He's probably so ticked off that he won't be anxious to help her out too much. Either way, it doesn't matter, I've got the best attorney in the four state area. My case is solid, I have the cult expert recommended by Steve Hassan's Freedom of Mind Center, I have Eric Scheibeler, I have a therapist, my private investigator, photos, video, taped phone conversations, and others all ready to make the best case possible. Win or lose, at least I'll have done all I could, I've got nothing to lose now.

This case is about Jonas, but I have a little surprise for Quixtar or...I guess they call themselves "E-commerce" here; they only "buy" from Quixtar. Seems the media is very interested in my case. Nothing like some bad press for Quixtar, to do some serious damage. They are covering the case, but I'm sure they will talk to Eric Scheibeler and my cult expert. That will make for a good local news expose.

A REAL J-O-B

2005-03-27T01:23:00.000-08:00

It's the middle of the night, and Jonas has a little cold. He's so stuffed up, I can't sleep. Cute snorring, though. Anyway, I started all these comparisons of Wal-Mart, my employer, at QuixtarBlog. And boy, did I open a can of worms.

I grew up here, and I know Wal-Mart has its issues. I swore I would never return here after leaving for college and I never thought I would work for Wal-Mart. But, I'm here for a reason....Jonas!

After owning by own company in construction for four years, and struggling to put food on my employee's tables and stressing about their families well-being over my own. I got to tell you, it's nice to have a regular J-O-B, especially mine.

They treat me great! The work atmosphere is relaxed and fun, but focused. I have great supporting friends, that are close and supportive, but not intrusive and trying to replace my family, unlike Quixtar.

I'm middle management, so I'm lucky in that I can come and go as I please, I set my schedule. When I travel, the company pays for everything, it's nice! I'm just required to get my stores built on time, and with the highest quality possible. Basically, that requires managing people, and resolving problems by making decisions based on my knowledge and experience.

With this whole fiasco with my wife and Jonas, it's incredible how supportive work is! Basically, they are willing to give me all the time off I need, and still pay me my salary. Beyond that I have two weeks paid vacation and another two weeks paid paternity leave. I make a modest salary, more than an "emerald" at Quixtar. And, this week I had my evaluation and I recieved a handsome raise, more than the average IBO makes in a year! With a promise to raise me another 10% over this year. And, a bonus check that is more than the average IBO makes in probably seven years, of course the government took half that. You got to love taxes!

It felt good! And it feels real good to get that paycheck every two weeks in the bank, to have insurance for my family, to have all the other benefits and perks, to have a retirement and investment funds, and to have security and a future for my family.

My point is...after some hard work to establish myself and after some four years of college, the pay off is worth it! And it is a whole lot better than Quixtar describes a J-O-B! I've done both my, and there are pros and cons to each. And, I know each individuals experience is unique, but that's the point. Don't let Quixtar brainwash you into thinking their way is the only way. It's quite the opposite, their way, is about the worst way! You would have a better chance taking your membership fees to a casino and gambling for 2-5 years...literally, your chances are better!

Average Duration in Quixtar?

2005-03-20T08:03:00.000-08:00

I was thinking about divorce, mine in particular. I remembered that infamous claim of 2% divorce rate at Amway & Quixtar. Seems impossible right? Then I remembered Statistics from my college days and how just about anything can be skewed for one's own agenda.
I started to think some more. What if it's not just a rumor? Are there people up there in Michigan figuring this stuff out, to whisper into kingpin ears?

There is only one way it would work... If they counted the number of divorces during the duration of time each person is involved with Quixtar & Amway only, not counting before or after they leave, then I see the possibility.

But, that brings up a very interesting question that I have yet to seen asked. What is the average duration of a person being an IBO?

We all know that at a minimum it would be one year, right? Many would stay in 2-5 years, before they realize the promises to wealth were lies. Then a select few would stay in longer, either because they have forgotten what a normal livelihood is and don't know what to do with themselves, except keep plugging along or, they are one of the .0007% who actually scamed enough people to get to the top. Eventually, many of those have since left or retired, whatever you want to call it. Those individuals have been in at the most 20 to 30 years.

We all know the turnover rate has to be astronomical. Some pro Quixtar blogger who works at their home office, posted on my site that tens of thousands of people sign up weekly or was it monthly. It doesn't matter, I don't believe it either way. But, if that's true, then mathematically within months the whole world would be in Quixtar, which it's not. Thank goodness!

Anyway, we know the numbers are pretty stagnant, most likely going down over time. That means the same tens of thousands are not renewing their membership and are leaving each week or month.

So, if you punched the numbers, and I'm sure statistic savvy Quixtar guru could easily do it, the average duration of membership probably hovers around 1-2 years I would guess. Remember one year would be the lowest possible calculation. Not to impressive and that's why they don't publish it. If it was impressive, you would see it in every IBO's argument to Quixtar legitimacy.

So, if you figure that, then it's not to hard to believe that over all those people who were in for on an average short amount of time, that they didn't get a divorce; not yet, at least. Thus, the 2% divorce rate of Quixtar.

You could also take into account the fact that most IBOs are impressionable 20-something young adults, who are single or happy newlyweds.

On a side note, it's amazing how many people I talk to about my ordeal say, "oh yeah, back in my 'younger years', I was involved in that." Which implies, back when I was young and stupid, the same time I was out doing other dumb stuff and thinking I knew it all, I made the mistake of getting involved in Amway.

"Dangerous" Cults and a Thank You

2005-03-14T07:11:00.000-08:00

I haven't been posting regularly. I've been getting ready for my case, which is in a month. I've booked the flight for the expert on cults. We discussed the difference between a cult and a "dangerous" cult. Seems Amway and Quixtar are considered "dangerous" to the PhD's on mind control. She explained that people can believe whatever they want, they can believe a "man lives on the moon". But, when a group starts replacing your family, consume all your time, distort reality, and ultimately cause one to resort to desperate measures to survive financially while sucking every ounce of time, energy, and money from someone, then the group is a "dangerous" cult. My experts first priority is to get my son out of that situation.
Amen to that!
I also hired a private investigator. He has observed her out until 4:30 in the morning with these people, among other things. We will show in court that virtually all her free time and even her sleep time is spent doing Quixtar activities. Much of that time my son is off with babysitters, when he could be with me. That's a real stable home life my son is getting there.
I also got some help from the web community. I want to take the time to thank everyone who has been so supportive to date... Jason, Scott Larson, Mo, Keith, ChrisA, Ashley, and all the others; particularly, Eric Scheibler, who was kind enough to give me his number and offer his assistance. I'm hoping he can testify, if his schedule allows, I'm waiting to here back from him. Ashley, as well, offered to help in any way he could. Thanks again to Scott for getting those people to contact me.
There is nothing of more value than a child. I wish I could post a picture of my baby boy, so you could see why I'm fighting as hard as I can and sacrificing every penny I have to try and have enough influence in his life to offer the stability he needs to grow up knowing what a stable home is, what hard work is, what it takes to be an honorable man. No matter what the result of my case, I'll try and teach him that and be there for him as much as I can.
If you would like to help, email at Zck917@aol.com

What an Opportunity!

2005-03-06T17:16:00.000-08:00

Have I got an opportunity for all you Quixtar IBOs, that will make you a millionaire in 8 months, not 2-5 yrs! I'm an expert in building 200,000 sq ft retail buildings, and I had an idea. Here's how it works...

I'll show you how to start your own construction company. Why not, your already independent "business" owners. What's that? You say you don't know anything about construction. Don't worry. For a small up-front fee, I'll show you how to get started. All you have to do is come to my meetings where I'll show you how to recruit your downline to help you. After you buy my "How To" books and listen to my weekly motivational tapes, you and your downline (call them the "crew") can collaborate and build a retail store to sell your Quixtar products from a building that Wal-Mart would envy.

It will take just 8 months and an investment in your "business" of $10 million. I know the cost is a little high, but your buying/building a higher quality store. Besides, a typical Wal-Mart has $2 million in sales every week, so just imagine all the nice things you and the crew will be able to buy. You can retire, try and patch up those relationships, and raise your family!

All I require is that each member of the crew give me a significant percentage of sales for my "educational" services. Look at me, I make a lot a money building Wal-Marts, now you can too!

Your "business" will really take off!

p.s. Anyone know a bww.com IBO account # and password, I want to sell my idea to Bill Britt, so he can show me some mind control....I mean, "motivational" techniques? Maybe I can start my own religion.

Questions for IBOs

2005-02-23T17:03:00.000-08:00

I know that several Quixtar IBOs will be testifying in my wife's defense. I've been thinking about what questions my attorney should ask in cross examining.
My expert on cults will have testified based on her expertise what Quixtar really is...a cult business. In defense my wife's upline will testify how great it is. It should be humorous.
I'm thinking a good line of questions should be...

How long have you been in Quixtar?

How many hours a week do you spend in Quixtar related activities?

So, your a millionaire right?

Well then, how much money do you make a month?

What about last year?

Based on what you've promised his wife and many others, shouldn't you be doing better than that?

Ok, well, your a local leader, right? Are there others above you here locally that are doing better? (I already know the highest one, is almost an "Emerald", but not yet)

Isn't true that in the six year existence of Quixtar, there are no proven documented Diamond millionaires that started in Quixtar and not Amway?

So, tell me about your business? What is your debt to income ratio? What are your average expenses a month? And revenue?

You mean to tell me you don't know your expenses or what your debt to income ratio is?

Well, what percentage of your sales are retail and outside the "business" pyramid?

Then isn't your business an illegal pyramid scam according to the federal government?

So, why are you so involved in this venture?

Isn't it true that social activity is a big part of Quixtar?

If the defendant is having an affair with another IBO, is that encouraged social activity?

Why is it well documented that if family, friends, and spouses don't support the Quixtar "dream", then it's better to "drop" them?

Why is it encouraged to get a baby sitter to go to meetings, rather than take care of your family?

Isn't true that high level IBOs claim that the Divorce rate is 2% in Quixtar, and discourage infidelity?

Yet according to legal documents your Diamond, Bill Britt, is in the middle of a divorce for an alleged affair. And is being accused of hiding $50 million in scam money, by his wife. Is that true?

This is getting too fun. Seriously, any other suggestions for questions my attorney might ask her Quixtar clan, feel free to comment.

I NEED HELP!!!

2005-02-14T21:30:00.000-08:00

My trial date for custody of my son, Jonas is in two months. I need the help of anyone who has a heart to make a big difference in how my son's life is influenced with goodness and righteousness. This evening, Valentines Day, I caught my wife cheating with another IBO (not her ex). I had felt it in my heart for awhile and I previously found a love letter to her from a guy, saying how much he looked forward to Jonas joining his family and how he enjoyed sleeping next to him. I flipped out, but she promised she wasn't cheating. Now, I've got taped proof.
Instead of mediating as I had planned, I'm going for full custody. Enough is Enough!
The Freedom of Mind Center referred me to an expert on cults, who has read my story and has agreed to help in my court case. This person will be studying the Bill Britt World Wide Organization. I need help in getting info, legal documents, or taped comments by IBOs like Bill Britt, Larry Winters, & Danny Snipes that may be damaging. I need former IBOs who are willing to talk to this expert. I need inside track to see if I can get Bo Short or other former big wigs to help. Anything at all will help.
This may seem crazy, but I'm serious. I'm not hanging my case on this alone. There are other confidential aspects of this ordeal. But, her involvement and behavior, and how it affects my son is a big part of it. Just imagine, my son was taken away by some strange man this evening, so she could have a romantic dinner with this guy. I spent the evening alone, as I continue to honor our sacred marriage vows. How dare she.
I created this AOL email account, to send me confidential info, Zck917@AOL.com
Spread the word! Please, help.

Economics 101

2005-02-12T18:59:00.000-08:00

No offense, but I don't think folks who stay and defend Quixtar are too smart. They are also very impressionable, evidenced by how they hang on every word spoken by uplines and salivate at the thought of being millionaires any day now.
When my wife brought one of her uplines to confront me and defend Quixtar, I began speaking to him very intelligently on the matter of Quixtar, as I had already studied up extensively on this group. He seemed uncomfortable that I knew so much and very irritated that my wife was hearing the secretive "negative" facts of Quixtar. He interrupted me and said, "I don't have discussions with unintelligent people...there are things we know that you don't know." I laughed out loud.
So, when I got these comments posted in response to "The 'Real' Losers", I wasn't surprised, and I laughed out loud again. Let's look closer...

All of you must inform yourselves; ask what is an S-CURVE, why are jobs being cut ?... and many more questions. When you get to the answers maybe just maybe you'll start to understand what is happening with the internet and the economics of our world and how to take advantage of those changes, maybe...

And...

Maybe you should read "Economic Paradigms" as well as "Quixtar's future Consumer". Those will give you insight into the next revolution in money-making (it actually is happening now; but most people won't know about it until the money making opportunity is gone - as with all big socio-economic revolutions most of the population only realize it after it's come and gone !)

Hmmm, what is an S-curve? Well I might be wrong, because I graduated from a top university with a bachelors in business, where I learned from professors (Quixtar IBOs say professors are "losers" who couldn't make it in the business world) this very basic term.
An S-curve is a display of any cumulative quantity (in this case, progress)plotted against time. Usually as time passes the quantity gradually increases at a faster rate and then flattens out over time as this quantity stabilizes. So this curve looks like an "S". It's Economics 101, and can be applied to almost anything.
I assume he was taught that as his downline grows his income will look like an "S-curve". Good luck, I think there is a .0007% chance of that happening, according to Quixtar data. Or maybe he thinks Quixtar as a company growing looks like an "S-curve". Nope, Amway had that growth, until they got in trouble and people figured out what it was, then they had to change the name and start something "new". Quixtar has not grown as predicted 6 years ago, and definately doesn't look like an "S-curve".
Why are people losing jobs? Well, that's a big question, and I'm not an economist, but without going into a big debate, let me say we were in recession and we're coming out. Let me point out that the "internet bust" led us into that recession, everybody got overly excited on internet companies and their "future" potential (sound familiar) and they ended up losing everything. I know Quixtar people can't watch or read the news, the information has to be provided by the upline. But, I think the last year or so jobs have been going up and the economy seems pretty stable now. There has been a "shift" or "economic paradigm" of many folks losing manufacturing jobs to people over seas, due to our "world economy" and Americans seem to be shifting towards more service, technology, etc. careers. Which brings us to the next comment....

Oooo, those are big words, let me translate. "Economic Paradigm", means a change or shift in economic times. Might I point out that the internet hype, as I mentioned before, was a paradigm that has come and gone, and apparently Quixtar didn't realize it. We're in a different "socio-economic revolution", which has to do with investing in opportunities which have sound principles and are doing business in a legal and ethical manner, so we don't have another economic "bust". Once again, Quixtar hasn't figured that out yet. Maybe that's why their progress over time looks more like a flat line than an S-curve.
He claims they are part of a money-making revolution. However, I have yet to here from any IBO that makes enough money worth noting.
And "Quixtar's Future Consumer", will be the people who continue to be belive and be impressed by the mumbo-jumbo propaganda crap they preach, otherwise they wouldn't have a future. Get a real education and get a real job!
Finally, he challenged me to ask "many other questions" to "understand". Well, nobody has answered where are the Diamonds from Quixtar that didn't start in Amway?
Here's another. If Amway didn't have anything to hide and were proud of their name, why didn't they call it Amway.com or I-Amway.com or something? Most legitimate companies keep their name when launching their business on the internet. Wal-Mart is Wal-Mart.com, nothing to hide there. Think about it.

Legitimate IBO

2005-02-10T15:46:00.000-08:00

I'm impressed with Dave on the Road. After posting that I could not find a pro-Quixtar site that allowed posting to avoid "negative" comments, Dave responded that his did. I went to his site.
This guy has got it together. The way he runs his business is how I encouraged my wife to run hers, though she would not take my advice.
From what I can tell, he doesn't believe in the "tools and motivational" aspect of Quixtar, he doesn't sign the BSMMA, and runs his business the way normal true independent businesses would be run.
By reading his blog, you can tell he is intelligent and mentally healthy. The difference between him and the typical IBO and they're cliche, brainwashed answers and comments, is obvious. This guy should be the CEO of Quixtar, if there was one. I believe this is what Bo Short, the former Diamond envisioned for Quixtar to survive in the long-run, before he quit in protest.
If my wife would have done this and not have allowed Quixtar to rule her life, I'm pretty sure we would be happily married. I would have supported her 110%.
You can see why Dave allows comments, he has nothing to fear, he's not brainwashed. He recognizes the problems some fanatical cult-like lines, like Bill Britt's, cause to Quixtar's reputation.
Check out his blog Dave on the Road. If you are convinced and absolutely must join Quixtar, I encourage you to follow his example in running your business. If you see anything different in your upline, run!
Unfortunately for Dave, it seems he isn't making any significant money in Quixtar. This just proves once again, that when it comes to the lowest prices with the most convenience to the average consumer, they're heading down the street to Wal-Mart vs. changing their entire lifestyle and ordering overpriced products and paying shipping over the internet. Besides, if their a smart consumer, they'll go to Wal-Mart.com instead.

"Negative" thinking at Quixtar?

2005-02-10T08:37:00.000-08:00

I recently went looking on the web at some pro-Quixtar sites and blogs. I realized something interesting. I'm sure I'm not the first to notice. I can't find a site where visitors are allowed to comment and they are published for all to see. Why is that?
Could it be that they are afraid of all the negative comments they would be bombarded with.
That is understandable in Quixtar's world, there can be no negative thoughts. That is part of their brainwashing. Cults try to alter peoples perceptions of reality, and that is a big part of Quixtar.
I see this big time in my wife's personality and actions. It's really obvious to me now. And it's interesting that every once in a while I can break through that barrier of thick fog like thinking. She will get really mad whenever she has to face the reality of her pathetic situation, of all the pain and suffering she has caused so many peoples lives through her actions. Then instead of taking responsibility, some how it is my fault, because I'm not letting her get away with what she is doing.
Then like a light switch, she'll be back to her "positive" attitude, ignoring reality. That's the brainwashing. That is what she is spending all her money on for "motivational" material from all those "brilliant" Diamonds.
One final point. I think Quixtar uses the term "negative" for anything contrary to their thinking and "positive" for everything for Quixtar. Which is just another tactic of their brainwashing. To all of us with clear minds, it is a question of reality before Quixtar (quixtar calls it negative) and thinking in Quixtar's world (quixtar calls it positive). IBOs can not think "negative", that is reality.

The REAL "Losers"

2005-02-06T17:29:00.000-08:00

These Quixtar IBOS love to say everybody is a "loser". My wife claimed almost one year ago, that within two to five years she would be a millionaire. Well, she told me the month before last she made a whole $18 for the month. She's well on her way, according to plan she should be making about $10,000 per month minimum.
Why does she believe this little lie? It's propagated at all these Quixtar meetings. One question, PLEASE, will someone tell me the name of just one person that has made it to Diamond starting in Quixtar and not Amway? It's been almost six years, so there should be hundreds, I'm sure.
Of course, no one will answer, there are none. These pro Quixtar people are cowards, they post comments, but never finish what they start. Once they run out of the cliche comments and answers, they disappear once they have to really think for themselves. They panic when they come to a point where they have to face the truth...they're doomed to failure, after so much invested money, time, and effort. They are the REAL "Losers"!

Felony

2005-02-06T17:01:00.000-08:00

My wife's financial situation is a NIGHTMARE! When I met her she was in serious debt. The first week I met her that became apparent, when I paid about $1500 in immediate past due bills for rent and utilities. I continued to pay her bills. The day after she left she stole money from me, by taking my check book and paying bills over the phone. She took everything from our home I had just bought for us, as newlyweds getting started. Then she had the nerve to call me and ask for me to pay her rent.
After she had changed her phone number twice, and we hadn't spoken in a while, I got a call from American Express. They notified me they were concerned about my newly opened account. Someone had spent $1200 in five days. Surprise, I don't have an American Express account. Well, I called the police and filed a report. Come to find out, my wife, whom I was legally separated, committed credit card fraud. Later, I got another call on another account she had opened. The police arrested her for the fraud. She lied that she had not spent money on the second account, and that was all she had done wrong. Several weeks later, I got another call on another past due account I had supposedly opened. I reported it to the police. It was her again!
That is a class c FELONY! She will be arraigned this week and then prosecuted. She'll probably get three years probation and possibly some county jail time.
Why did she do this? Quixtar. She set goals at Quixtar meetings to buy a new bed set and other high dollar items. Six months ago, she proclaimed she was doing so well, she could retire in four months. After months of no income from Quixtar, she had to keep up the perception she was doing well, and committed credit card fraud with my info. Approximately $1800 later, now she'll face the consequences. Now that is a CRIME!
Supposedly, IBOs are "indpendent", right? Wrong! Rules 4.10 & 4.10.1 say...

4.10. Unlawful Business Enterprises or Activities: No IBO may operate any illegal or unlawful business enterprise, engage or participate in any illegal or unlawful business activity, or be convicted of any illegal or unlawful activity.
4.10.1. An illegal or unlawful enterprise or activity is one which (1) is prohibited by federal, state, or local law or regulation, or (2) has been determined as such by federal, state, or local law enforcement officials, or (3) has been reasonably determined as such by the Corporation. In making a reasonable determination, the Corporation shall obtain the opinion of outside legal counsel and the IBOA International Board Hearing Panel Chairperson.

Which brings up a question. Will she be kicked out of her own "independent" business for her felony CRIME?

Consequences

2005-02-03T11:42:00.000-08:00

The consequences of my wife's actions, in the end, punish us both, though I have done nothing wrong. After we found my wife, the judge set a hearing. About four Quixtar IBOs, some of her upline, showed up and tried to testify, but they arrived late. The judge would not allow their testimony, so that sat in the back of the court room laughing as I testified about their influence over her and how I was concerned for her and my sons well-being. In the ruling, the judge said he was not convinced "yet" that this group was a cult, based off my testimony. He wanted to here more from experts. Also, he chastised my wife harshly for contempt of court, for disobeying his orders. If I would have filed for contempt of court she would have gone to jail, he said. He said, he seriously considered throwing her in jail anyway, during the times I had our son. Because her boss allowed her to take him to work and because she had decided to breast feed, she was given "temporary" custody, and only temporary. She would have Jonas during the week and I have Jonas on the weekends, which I consider totally unfair. Apparently, I am lucky I get this much time with a newborn. The judge noted that she contends that I am controlling and manipulative, yet she produced no evidence to support that. You see in her head, she thinks I am trying to control her life by encouraging her to get out of Quixtar and their brainwashing influence. Otherwise, I have done nothing to deserve all of this.

The Real Injustice

2005-02-01T15:07:00.000-08:00

Sorry, my experience/story is so lengthy. I'm not sure anyone cares, but I'm hoping people can see the ludicrous behavior that takes place when your brainwashed by Quixtar. After I filed for separation, I asked for information regarding my unborn child. I was paying all the doctor bills, yet she would not tell me anything. She refused to let me tape the ultrasound, she changed her phone number, and when I came to her house to get information I needed for the insurance company, she said I was harassing her. Well, the judge ruled per Roe vs. Wade, she was to keep her privacy. But, she was to consult with me on naming the boy and she was to notify me immediately at birth, and I was to have immediate visitation.
One week after my son was born, my attorney called me, to tell me he was born. She had named with her last name and had disappeared with the child! I completely lost it, I panicked! I called her family and they hung up on me. She wasn't at her house, she was gone.
We filed for emergency custody, and I got it. Ultimately, her attorney found her and I was allowed to see Jonas. She had been staying with the parents of her upline. The Quixtar group/cult were at my sons birth and had adopted them as their own, which continues to this day. Her own parents have not seen our son, but a lady in Quixtar she considers her adopted mother takes them in as her own.
Now, that is an experience that was stolen from me, that can never be returned and never be forgiven. That is another crime , thanks to Quixtar.

A Declaration to Quixtar

2005-01-31T07:58:00.000-08:00

I have some challenges to all you pro Quixtar people. My position is this. I believe as Bo Short, the former diamond, that Quixtar is a victim of the kingpins at the top. Each family (in my wife’s case the Bill Britt World Wide organization) is responsible for the mind control and cult like tactics being used. They use these tactics to become rich off fools who believe that absolute obedience to the program being taught through meetings and motivational tools will make them rich too. Read the percentages on your chances of doing that, it’s not going to happen. Go to college, get a real job or start a real business, and you will have a 1 in 6 chance of being a millionaire. With Quixtar your chances are closer to 0% than 1%. If there was a forecast tomorrow for .0007% chance of rain, would you bet your neighbor your home, car, and family that it will rain tomorrow? My point is this; it is not worth losing everything that really matters in this life to gamble and hope you beat the odds. You can’t take your riches with you when we die. I’m not rich, but I’m well off for my age. I’ve noticed the more money I make, the more I spend, and the more stressed out I am. I’m not any happier. I served as a missionary to Honduras, and I saw truly poor people who suffered like many of us will never know, but they were really happy. They valued what was more important, their loved ones and their life. Setting aside the fact that many of these activities may be illegal, look at what it does to people and those they care about. Now that I lost the love of my life, I know what suffering is.
I believe those who try and connect this business with God’s will, will burn in hell. I don’t read anywhere in the Bible about Jesus saying the purpose of life is to be rich, in fact it is the opposite. He said to his “well off” disciples, forsake your riches and follow me to find eternal glory. If you read the scriptures carefully, you will find that Satan’s #1 tool to lead people astray is money and pride. The kingpins twist the teachings of scripture for their benefit, to stir up a religious fervor they covet to make their little fools commit even more to suffering and anguish, as they stuff their pockets even more and say, “come and get it, be like me, you fools”. There is case after case of this happening with those at the top.
Now, I build Wal-Marts and there is media showing that we are being sued for leadership at the top not enforcing equality in the work place, and they are paying for individuals making mistakes, though it is not company policy. The EPA fined our construction department $3.1 million because a hand full of the 350 stores we build a year had violations of not protecting the water ways, all because contractors we hired didn’t follow our contract to do what they should have. We are being held responsible for others actions. Enron fell because certain individuals did illegal things the company as a whole did not support. So, Quixtar should be held responsible for the un-ethical and illegal activities of their kingpins. What is the government waiting for? My wife’s up-line laughed when I said I wanted to bring this company down. I think if we rally and spread the news to unsuspecting folks and those who are already aware of what can happen to you, we could do some damage. The bloggers are an obvious thorn in their side. Keep it up! Am I bitter? Yes, and deservedly so. I’m willing to do what ever it takes to do as much damage as possible to these people. I encourage people to educate yourself, read Steve Hassan’s material on cults and Quixtar, read the Blakely report, support the bloggers and other web sites exposing this farce, but more importantly read all the personal stories of peoples like me and see what can happen to you. It’s not worth it! It’ a crime!

Some background on me

2005-01-30T14:36:00.000-08:00

I share my experience with Quixtar in the hopes that those involved will get out and stop brain washing unsuspecting people; and, to show those investigating this “business” what could happen to you and your loved ones. My story is unique and compelling. I’m considering going to the local media in the hopes of crippling the local group here, which is like a cult. I want to become involved to publicize and educate people about Quixtar on a larger scale. I have read everything available on this group, and consider myself well educated on the ins and outs of how they operate.
I am not a former IBO. I am married to one, but we are currently separated and she wants to divorce me, all thanks to Quixtar. How could something as special as newlyweds having their first child turn from something pure and exciting to the most ugly and outrageous fight in court, almost overnight?
I remember as a kid, friends and associates of my parents pressuring them to get involved with these MLM business opportunities. I remember how awkward I felt for my parents under pressure. I don’t recall if they ever actively pursued Amway or any of the others, but I know they never became rich off any of these businesses promising wealth. During college at the age of 22, I started my own company in construction, building houses. I had as many as nine employees with families to feed, so I know what it is to run a real business and be successful. I went on to graduate from college top of my class and was highly recruited. I accepted an offer with Wal-Mart Corporate as a Construction Manager. I’ve been there 2 years now. I control about $150 million in assets a year and I have an income close to Quixtar’s “Emerald” level (which they have about a .035% chance of reaching). My J-O-B is great and I’m sure I’ll have many more opportunities in the future!
Back in college, one of my fellow contractors from work invited me to a dinner/meeting, which turned out to be a pitch for some MLM selling data phones. I hated the deception and manipulation they tried to use on me. As they explained the concepts, I could see the fallacies of the pyramid scheme without anyone explaining them to me and I chose not to get involved. I swore to be more vigilant in the future when invited to free events to here some “to good to be true” offer. Later, I gave my roommate a job and he was also scammed by this contractor. He chose to get involved and be a “down-line” of this guy. My roommate would go on to lose a lot of money and own a lot of data phones.

Wow! This is great!

2005-01-30T13:43:00.000-08:00

Well, people are finding my new little blog. This is exciting. So, now I'll start to tell the story.
I was set up on a blind date where I would meet my future wife. When her sister spoke to me on the phone to set us up, I asked her to tell me about her. She said she was very ambitious and involved with some internet marketing company. The tone in her voice was somewhat negative when explaining, but I didn’t pick up on it at the time. Later, I found out that my wife had already tried to sell her family on Quixtar and they were all fed up with it. It was one of those things they just shook their heads and rolled their eyes about. I didn’t catch on for a while. Well, we fell in love on that first blind date and began our relationship.
My wife had been dating a guy off and on for 1 ½ years before she met me. This guy turned out to be her “up-line” in Quixtar. She assured me they were over, and were just friends and business associates, which I believed. The first time I went to her house she pulled out a can of the energy drink from Quixtar and did some quirky sales pitch, which I thought was a joke and I laughed it off. Now I realize she was serious. I also thought it was strange that all over her house were cut out magazine pictures of Bentley cars, yachts, mansions, and other riches. She said it was her motivation, that within 2-5 years she would be a millionaire and own these things.
Throughout our relationship she would speak very highly of one of her leaders and his wife. She would always pressure me to meet them, saying I was a lot like him and she really respected how successful and great he was. She said that they really thought highly of her, they thought she was an up and coming leader and made her feel important.
As a business man, I always read the daily news and I liked to be aware of what is going on in this world we all live in. She would always ask me why I read the news, that it was all negative. She didn’t watch her TV and didn’t own a computer for the internet (interesting for a person with an internet marketing company). It was all negative. Also, she would always pressure me to read these motivational books she owned.
She would always attack my J-O-B, especially since I worked for Wal-Mart. She was very sensitive to normal jobs. I would agree with her to avoid argument, but to be honest my job was really great and she certainly didn’t mind spending all the money I was making. Apart from the big paycheck from Quixtar, $18 last I heard. She also had to work a normal part time job and other odd jobs to pay her bills. But, for some reason she was in real bad financial shape. She lived a false lifestyle, as if she was well off. She wanted the nicest things. I soon realized she needed me to pay all her immediate past due bills for rent, utilities, phone, car, medical, etc. I wrote checks for over $1500 the first week of knowing her. I continued to pay all her bills and expenses from then on. I discovered her credit was destroyed, she was in real trouble. She acted as if her credit report was some kind of plague to her life that she could escape or ignore.
There were other strange things my wife would do that I didn’t realize was all a part of the mind control activities and cult-like practices of her group, until later when I was investigating Quixtar. It all of sudden made complete since. It’s amazing how they perpetuate the same activities no matter who you are dealing with.
She would go to her meetings on Thursday and sometimes Saturday at about 7:00pm and not return until 1 or 2 in the morning, which I thought was strange. The first time she skipped one of her meetings to be with me, we were at her house and her ex-boyfriend/up-line burst into the house in a panic asking why she had left the meeting early. She introduced me and then he apologized and left quietly. That night I asked her to explain her business plan.
As she explained little by little, I realized this was a pyramid scheme or scam. I blurted out, “this is like Amway.” She became very defensive and said it was NOT Amway, it was different. I said o.k. and I proceeded to try and explain to her the fallacies of the pyramid scheme that seemed so obvious to me. She closed off her mind to my explanations and assured me that this was different.
I never really studied this stuff, but I consider myself pretty business savvy and it seems logical to me that the whole premise and promises of these MLMs don’t make since. Many of the arguments I used are shared by most intelligent people and well documented now that I have studied this all out. Well we had our first argument that night. In fact, this subject was the only thing we would ever fight about, otherwise our relationship was perfect. The whole reason for me trying to get her out was because I loved her and was worried about her well being.
I became more upset when I learned that she was buying all these motivational CDs and books with the little money she made, and that she was $6000 in debt to her ex-boyfriend/up-line. These were bigger priorities to her than paying her bills. You can see how I felt used, I spent my money on her and she spent her money on Quixtar. But, she was investing in her business. I was investing in us. I couldn’t understand why someone would have to buy so much stuff. It’s not that complicated, just go sell the stuff, explain how they can be an IBO, and move on. Why do they have to go to all these meetings and buy all this junk? I started my company on my own, no body helped me. I would go on the web or to the library, read how to do it, and I did it. I didn’t have to “invest” in educational material on a large scale after I got going. I went to work and I was successful. I could see what the real Quixtar business was. It was the motivational tools and meetings. I just didn’t realize how obsessed and controlled she was at the time.
I decided to find out more about Quixtar as she had suggested. When I did a word search on the internet, I was surprised to see all the extremely negative sites listed after their official site. I went to the official site first and found all their claims to greatness pretty impressive. But, then I went to some of the other sites and I was shocked at what I found. Quixtar was in fact Amway, contrary to what my wife was so adamant about. I laughed out loud. I also found out all the illegal activities and damage this business caused to relationships. I called her to tell her all that I had learned about Quixtar thinking she would be open to here me out. She refused to even investigate; she had been told that all that was on the internet was lies and negativity. I couldn’t believe it. It turned into a huge argument. The last thing I tried to do was to convince her to account for all the time, money, and energy she was putting into this by giving herself some imaginary hourly wage doing Quixtar to see how much she was really investing in this business, so she would know what her true “opportunity cost” of doing something different was. I explained all this in the hopes of her realizing why she was in financial trouble and to see what she could have made doing something else with her time, money, and energy.
We got in another fight, when I casually mentioned to my parents that she was involved with Amway in front of her. She was extremely upset that I had demeaned her business by calling it Amway and that I was not supporting her dream.
It was a big deal that my birthday was on the weekend of one of their big national meetings/revivals. She apologized she could not be here for my birthday, the meeting was more important. I made her feel really guilty about it, and the last minute she surprised me and didn’t go. She held that against me from then on that her sacrifice was so big that I would never comprehend how hard it was for her to do that. That was her sacrifice to show how much she loved me.
One day I found a piece of paper she had scribbled some writings on that scared the crap out of me. It was line after line of “chant like” sentences. Among other things it said she was in “total (underlined) submission to her up-line”. It said that Larry Winters and Danny Snipes knew her by name with several exclamation points, as if they were some kind of Gods. It was line after line of crazy stuff, like, “I am a ruby”, “I am financially responsible”, “I am blessed by God”, “I am a diamond”, etc. This seriously worried me and I called her father to talk about it. I began to find out to what extent her family was aware of her association with this cult. They had approached her about getting out now that she was with me. She needed to stay away from her ex, as this was dangerous to our relationship. But, she became angry with them. Her family explained all the horrible meetings they had with her as she pitched to her family this business as if they were her next big pay check. Her father felt even stronger, that this business was a cult of the devil leading people to worship riches and power over God in these last days. He asked me to get my hands on that piece of paper so he could see it for himself. That is why I have it in my possession today for all to see.
It began to bother me that she was not coming home until morning on her meeting nights, that she was with her ex at these meetings and that he was calling her almost daily about “business”. It was a real drag on our relationship. But, she still loved me and she was pressuring me to marry her, which I did want more than anything.
When we found out we were pregnant, we decided to elope to Travel Channels #1 most romantic beach and resort in Maroma, Mexico. I immediately had a diamond ring made for her that appraised at $19,000 and the wedding/honeymoon in Mexico was another $10,000 per week. I mention this, not to brag about money, but to show that I was providing her with all the finer things in life that she so sought after with Quixtar, yet that didn’t matter. There was something else keeping her attached to this group.
On our honeymoon, we talked about our future, about maybe starting a real estate development company together. We both got excited. She asked if we could move away from all of this and start a fresh new life together. We agreed that we would have the baby back home and then move away to start our dream life. I was the happiest man alive. When we got back from Mexico, I moved her out of her house and we got a huge new apartment near the hospital and we got settled in. One week later we went to her sister’s house to design our wedding announcements and that’s when the real trouble started.
Her up-line called and said he hadn’t met his sales quota to go to some big meeting and he needed her to buy massive amounts of soap, she agreed. What?! I didn’t say anything. Later that night we were all talking. My wife mentioned I had bought us a new TV. Our brother-in-law asked why we didn’t just keep her TV. I explained that she wanted to pay back her debt of $6000 to her ex, so she gave him the TV among other stuff. He was shocked that she was so concerned about her ex. It made me think, you know, I never expected to get paid back money from past girlfriends. I casually agreed with him. When we got in the car, she verbally attacked me, asking if I had a problem with her ex. I was shocked. I said actually I didn’t really have a problem with her paying him back, but I did have a problem with him calling every day and that she had not gotten rid of some of his stuff and why was she so anxious to help him out financially when we’re trying to get our lives started. She was livid; she went back to her old house and slept there that night.
The next evening I was supposed to go out with her brothers for a guy’s night out. I canceled and asked my wife if we could go on a date to work things out. She agreed. Then she got a phone call from her up-line, they were having a meeting that night. She canceled on me! She said she would be home at 10:30pm. I was outraged, but figured we could go out later that night. At about midnight I began to panic. At 1a.m. I drove around trying to find her, as she had turned off her cell. At 2 a.m. I found a piece of paper with her ex’s number and I called it. He answered and she was with him. She snapped at me, how dare I call her during one of her meetings and embarrass her. I asked where she was, she was at her meeting. She asked if I was o.k., I said no and then she hung up on me. At 4 am in the morning she called me and said she was leaving her meeting, how dare I call her and I was to never do anything like that again, that she was not coming home, and she was going to have a yard sale with her group that day instead of going to church with me, and she hung up. After church I went to her house and found them finishing up their yard sale, which was a front to sell people on Quixtar. She was alone with her ex and she had taken off her wedding ring. She told me to go to the house and wait for her there, we were going to talk. When I questioned her about what was going on, she responded she was done with me. She said she had thought about it, and decided I was too controlling, I wouldn’t support her dream, I didn’t make her a better person, and she never really loved me. She had decided that she still loved her up-line. And she left.
She got her up-line to help her take all the stuff I had bought for us out of our apartment, while I was gone. She took money out of my account. Then she called me a couple of days later and asked me to pay her rent and bills. Her up-line and others from her group rented a huge house next door to hers and moved in. They began some kind of communal help to survive. The couple she so admired moved in to this house. The wife of the couple takes my wife to the pre-natal doctor visits. They protect and watch over her. My wife now tells me that her up-line no longer loves her, and sure enough I think he moved out. But, they are still friends.
My wife cut off all communication with her family and left the church. She changed her phone number twice, but she would call me to ask for money and to try and convince me to give our baby up for adoption. When I refused, she cut off all communication and said I would never see our son. Our phone conversations were insane; it was like there was another person on the line. So, I began to record our conversations. She would say things like these people were ordained by God to teach people to be wealthy and prosperous, that all of Christ’s disciples were rich. She said she wasn’t afraid to run away from the law if I came after our child. She said she was going to quit her job any day now, because she would be rich and could stay home with her husband and raise our son.
One time she invited me over to bring her some mail. She called this great leader of the group to come in and talk to me for the first time. Bring it on. This guy was a joke. I was ready to debate, when I started rattling off all the facts I had learned about Quixtar he got real nervous and cut me off. He said I didn’t know all that they knew. He said he wasn’t a millionaire yet, but he had received a $300 check last week. I laughed; I make that in two days. He also took it upon himself to defend teaching the gospel with the business, I couldn’t believe it. Finally, he said he refused to talk to anyone who wasn’t intelligent and he kicked me out of my wives house, put his arm around her, and told me he would see me at the top. He’ll be seeing me sooner than that.
After all the unbelievable crap I’ve had to go through, which is too numerous to recount, I have hired the best attorney in the four state area and gave my wife one last chance before I went to court. I filed for separate maintenance, which gives me all the opportunity to seek custody without divorce, remember I still love this girl. I feel sorry for her, she needs help. She needs to be deprogrammed. She can’t afford an attorney, so in response she filed a protective order against me. She testified I had physically abused her and that she couldn’t remember getting married. Well my attorney had a field day with that, and it was easily dismissed. In fact she was chastised by the judge as there was no evidence of any abuse or immanent danger. I’ve never laid a finger on any woman. But, she got her pro bono attorney and she filed for divorce, saying it was intolerable to live with me, and is seeking custody of our child and all my money. Isn’t nice to know our tax dollars are going to support these broke victims of Quixtar as they try and get out of the mess caused by being associated with scum that promise happiness, but find only the opposite. After she was humiliated on the stand, she went back to trying to give up our son for adoption. Cont...(this is getting long)

2005-01-29T14:45:00.000-08:00

Brain Washing in Writing, note: TOTAL submission to upline.

Twisted Indoctrination

2005-01-26T17:46:00.000-08:00

The other night my wife was repeating some of the same old defenses of Quixtar, such as, Quixtar is a real business because we're supported by all these big legitimate companies, and our vitamins are the official vitamin of the NBA and NHL, and the FTC supports us, blah, blah, blah. Whatever. Well, I heard a new one that I couldn't believe. I was talking about real business practices, and I mentioned some of the things I had learned in business school from my college days. She responded, that professors don't know "crap". All professors are just "losers" who couldn't make it in the real business world, so they had to settle for teaching.
I find myself in these arguments; to be honest most of her arguments are so outrageous and infantile, that I'm left speechless and dumbfounded by the very idiocy of what she has been brainwashed to say. This was one of those moments. Quixtar uplines are making her stupid, and that's a crime!

Actions speak louder than words

2005-01-24T07:51:00.000-08:00

I have a lot of examples of why mom is messed up because of Quixtar, but I'll give the most recent. Last weekend was Bill Britt's big meeting in South Carolina. Even though we have a seven week old baby, that she supposedly has to breast feed and loves more than anything in the world, she HAD to go to this three day meeting. Fine with me, spend all your time and money going to these meetings, it's more time I have with our son. Well our baby got pretty constipated, because he was on formula for three days. Because she was gone, she couldn't pump milk. So, this weekend she didn't have any pumped milk, again. I asked her to come over after she got off her real J-O-B and feed him. She didn't tell me that she had to go to a "consultation", Quixtar crap again. She didn't pick up my phone calls. Another weekend of no milk from mom and a crying baby. So, what is more important? This is a crime!
I wanted to add a link to two interesting articles from MSNBC, for all you IBO's out there.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Savinganddebt/Savemoney/P36021.asp?special=0501freedom

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6681624/

Now that's some perspective on what's really important and how you really become rich and happy. I really respect MSNBC, especially after their expose on Quixtar.

2005-01-23T21:55:00.000-08:00

Better Times

I'm sick and tired of Quixtar ruining my life!

2005-01-23T19:48:00.000-08:00

I'm fighting back! There is a lot of information in the media and on the web warning of all the perils of affiliating with Quixtar. After months of reading everything I can on Quixtar, I've decided to add my voice to the web. I'm doing this for my son, Jonas. Because of Quixtar, my newlywed wife left me, her choices are controlled by her upline. Her reality is completely twisted. Our newborn's well-being comes second to Quixtar. Though I've done absolutely nothing to deserve this, my son has been taken from me, during the week, since she is nursing. At least the courts have given him to me on the weekends. I've had the two people I love the most taken from me, and that's a crime!